Diana wrote: ↑17 Jan 2020, 07:10
Sounds almost like you're talking of the Christ itself. For the Roman Catholics, does the Holy Ghost represent the Christ ? I've never really understood this three fold nature, this Trinity.
i don't know if anyone quite understands it. the holy ghost seems to be christ's gift to man - a promise he made that he (god) would interact directly with man in a way heretofore unseen - perhaps as some contrition on god's part, an admittance of how hard it is to be human. it may be useful to think of the male trinity as a version of the female trinity, variously described but basically comprised of virgin, lover, mother. the exact station or title of each manifestation is blurred and confused, which i believe is due to an overlap with the virgin or maiden one desires after, as with the troubadors, and then who becomes the lover who becomes pregnant and hence a mother. the mother, however, is both the mother of the tacit subject - as in the lovers card - and the lover who becomes a mother, which is to say crone. in the same way, the father is the son and vice versa, and yet they are separate. the roles these aspects play are different, but roughly speaking the father is consort or coefficient of the mother, the son is consort with the lover (wife, mary magdalene, Logos & Sophia), and the holy ghost is a variant of the maiden. these latter 2 are less connected to the male/female devision of the other aspects - the holy ghost is not properly speaking "male" just as the virgin is not properly speaking "female" - she is innocent of such things, if you will, above beyond and uninterested by these matters, as is a youth or a goddess such as artemis.
sidebar: as you may know, proponents of mary magdalene as the consort of christ argue that christ was totally a man (the "totus" declaration from the council of chalcedony), and so for him not to experience human sexuality and non-platonic love would be short of "total' and hence tantamount to blasphemy. as i have said elsewhere, christians have worked in this very concept of a female trinity with the 3 marys - the mother, (madonna) the lover (magdalene), and the youth (sometimes called salome, although john sometimes seems to be arguing that he is the androgynous youth). although the church would like to sum it all up with christ's mother, being virgin, mother, and crone - no mention of lover. the actual name for mary is miriam, suggesting the jewish myth of miriam's well. magdalene's sacred day is May 1, or May day, the pagan celebration of fecundity and eros. the may pole is certainly phallic, and the dance aound it intertwining red and white is a symbolic representation of the interweaving of male and female, the semen and the blood, the bread and the wine. the virgin queen Elizabeth loved may day celebrations, but was eventually pursuaded by puritans on her privy council to ban it. many trists occurred in bowers, where a may day queen or simply a woman claiming to be maid marian would bed down with a would-be robin hood. may illegitimate babies were so born in this very hardy-esque ritual (many named Hood or Hudson etc. as a result). i mention this because robin hood/maid marian, directly connected to may day, are also directly connected to mary/miriam/marian magdalene and frazer & grave's idea of the sacrificial king, told in the language of everyday people. note, she is the only woman considered one of the merry men (apostles); indeed, the "merry" men are mary's men. we might also note that maid marian is captive of the evil prince john, a la sophia prunikos and the tradition that magdalene was a prostitute. she is also captive of the sherriff of nottingham which, along with robin and his outlaws, suggests the authorities are corrupt and misguided: ie the church. originally, marian was a shephardess, hence the maiden artemis figure of the forest and moon. she of course became the lover figure of robin hood, and there is also tales of her as a crone.
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