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Tarot de Besançon
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Tarot de Besançon
Dear all,
does anybody know if there is any available edition of the Tarot de Besançon?
It's a Tarot similiar to the TdM which replaced the positions of the Papess (II) and Pope (V) by the Roman Gods Jupiter/Juno (but some other little differences exist).
As far as I know, at the moment there is only a Tarot from Switzerland that is a reproduction of the TdB. Ist Name is the "Tarot 1 JJ".
Can someone help?
does anybody know if there is any available edition of the Tarot de Besançon?
It's a Tarot similiar to the TdM which replaced the positions of the Papess (II) and Pope (V) by the Roman Gods Jupiter/Juno (but some other little differences exist).
As far as I know, at the moment there is only a Tarot from Switzerland that is a reproduction of the TdB. Ist Name is the "Tarot 1 JJ".
Can someone help?
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PS: This kind of deck is what I mean, but unfortunately I couldn't find it.
It is offered by etsy for more than 1000€.
It is offered by etsy for more than 1000€.
Re: Tarot de Besançon
The deck being sold on Etsy is extremely rare, hence the price.
I suggest:
Il Tarocco di Besançon, Il Meneghello
Tarocchi di Besançon Miller, Rinascimento - Giordano Berti
These are harder to find:
Tarot d'Epinal/Pellerin et Cie - Arts et Lettres, France (French Titles only) - J .M. Simon (French/English Titles)
Tarot de Besançon - Pablo Robledo
Vandenborre - Pablo Robledo
I suggest:
Il Tarocco di Besançon, Il Meneghello
Tarocchi di Besançon Miller, Rinascimento - Giordano Berti
These are harder to find:
Tarot d'Epinal/Pellerin et Cie - Arts et Lettres, France (French Titles only) - J .M. Simon (French/English Titles)
Tarot de Besançon - Pablo Robledo
Vandenborre - Pablo Robledo
Rocket Raccoon: Blah, Blah, Blah.....
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@ Papageno,
thank you for your answer - it helped me very much.
One question: Is there a file with the Besancon Cards? I'm considering to let the cards print by an online shop. It would be much more easier.
thank you for your answer - it helped me very much.
One question: Is there a file with the Besancon Cards? I'm considering to let the cards print by an online shop. It would be much more easier.
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Yes, there is, there are a number available on the BNF website, Gallica: here for instance, or for the deck pictured above, see here.
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You're welcome, glad to be of service. You can download the images by clicking on the downwards facing arrow in the menu to the left.
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Honestly,
I'm not sure which one is more beautiful, being torn between both decks.
The first one looks so ancient and the second has a more powerful style, although the notes on it bother me a little bit..
I'm not sure which one is more beautiful, being torn between both decks.
The first one looks so ancient and the second has a more powerful style, although the notes on it bother me a little bit..
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Here's the "clean" edition, I knew that there were more: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b ... rk=85837;2
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@ _R_
Did you notice that the eyes of Cupido on the Lovers Card (VI) from the last link you've posted are not covered in contrast to earlier versions?
I wonder why![Question :?:](./images/smilies/icon_question.gif)
Did you notice that the eyes of Cupido on the Lovers Card (VI) from the last link you've posted are not covered in contrast to earlier versions?
I wonder why
![Question :?:](./images/smilies/icon_question.gif)
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This is because the Arnoult deck is, aside from Juno and Jupiter, a "Marseilles Type II" deck, and not a Besançon as such. If the figures seem familiar, it is because Arnoult also produced another deck, with Pope and Popess, which became the prototype of the Marteau-Grimaud deck.
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The one you pictured from Etsy was from published by Grimaud. This one that I just finished restoring was the earlier version, the Lequart Arnoult, that was done through the 1880s. It was produced by before Grimaud purchased the Lequart publisher in 1891. I just got the proofs back. Jupiter. Juno. Bloody swords. Bearded angel. Unique colors. What more could you want?
You can get it here on Etsy.
![Image](https://i.etsystatic.com/8791667/r/il/c2282c/2319467676/il_794xN.2319467676_3mlv.jpg)
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Hello,
Also look on the website of the National Library of France (Gallica)
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b ... rk=64378;0
https://gallica.bnf.fr/services/engine/ ... ultat-id-3
Jean
Also look on the website of the National Library of France (Gallica)
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b ... rk=64378;0
https://gallica.bnf.fr/services/engine/ ... ultat-id-3
Jean