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RavenOfSummer wrote: ↑17 Jun 2019, 22:35 The reprint is very controversial. I don't claim any special knowledge about it, but many people in the tarot community are upset that this reprint is being done without the permission of Chesca Potter, the artist, who apparently holds the copyright to the art. Chesca went out of contact with the community some years ago- again I don't know the circumstances of this. The co-creator has now decided to reprint the deck, even though Chesca has apparently expressly stated she did not want the deck reprinted. I don't know how the legality of the how thing works, but I understand that many feel that regardless of legality the artist's wishes in regards to her own work should be respected. I've heard people say they feel there is some male entitlement going on with the rights of the woman creator being trampled on, as I believe has happened to several women tarot artists throughout history (and obviously happens to women in general). Again, I claim no special knowledge, but am only sharing the arguments I have heard so that people can perhaps find out more information for themselves.

Also, the artist had made her images available for people to print decks for their personal use- you can download them here: https://voicewithinthecards.wordpress.c ... arot-book/. I understand that Chesca is fine with this as long as they are for personal use and not used to make money. She doesn't want the deck reprinted and sold. I know many people have printed their own copy of the Greenwood for their use with these images.

Nemia wrote: ↑17 Jun 2019, 12:30 and the Wildwood, which was supposed to replace it, somehow couldn't.

Nemia wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 13:14 I have the Wildwood and like it very much. If there was a morally acceptable re-print of the Greenwood, I'd snatch it up I like the more primitive, pre-modern look and feel of the Greenwood. I don't use my Wildwood much although it's beautiful, well-thought out and Celtic lore interests me. It's not a 100% click, don't know why.

Nemia wrote: ↑17 Jun 2019, 23:37 Oh, I was optimistic enough (naive? stupid?) to believe that Chesca Potter had given her permission to re-publish it! If she didn't, I won't buy it. Just as I didn't buy the new Mythic which was also created without even informing the original artist (she read about it on AT, iirc).

Thank you for the information, that really puts a different face on the action. I certainly won't support the creation of this deck and will write a mail to make that clear. As long as Chesca is against it, it's not right to print, sell or buy it.

katrinka wrote: ↑17 Jun 2019, 22:53

RavenOfSummer wrote: ↑17 Jun 2019, 22:35 The reprint is very controversial. I don't claim any special knowledge about it, but many people in the tarot community are upset that this reprint is being done without the permission of Chesca Potter, the artist, who apparently holds the copyright to the art. Chesca went out of contact with the community some years ago- again I don't know the circumstances of this. The co-creator has now decided to reprint the deck, even though Chesca has apparently expressly stated she did not want the deck reprinted. I don't know how the legality of the how thing works, but I understand that many feel that regardless of legality the artist's wishes in regards to her own work should be respected. I've heard people say they feel there is some male entitlement going on with the rights of the woman creator being trampled on, as I believe has happened to several women tarot artists throughout history (and obviously happens to women in general). Again, I claim no special knowledge, but am only sharing the arguments I have heard so that people can perhaps find out more information for themselves.

Also, the artist had made her images available for people to print decks for their personal use- you can download them here: https://voicewithinthecards.wordpress.c ... arot-book/. I understand that Chesca is fine with this as long as they are for personal use and not used to make money. She doesn't want the deck reprinted and sold. I know many people have printed their own copy of the Greenwood for their use with these images.

Agreed.

I could not purchase the reprint in good conscience, or even accept a copy as a gift. If I did, I'd never feel right using it or even seeing it on the shelf.

It's worth the trouble to download the free version if you'd like a copy, and have it printed up at a site like this one https://www.makeplayingcards.com/

The posts at this facebook group are well worth the time it takes to read them. Please, educate yourselves about this before ordering. https://www.facebook.com/pg/Chesca-Pott ... e_internal

Does anyone have a good tutorial on the best way to get cards printed in MPC from the files provided by Chesca?

Pen wrote: ↑14 Dec 2020, 06:49

Does anyone have a good tutorial on the best way to get cards printed in MPC from the files provided by Chesca?

I'm not sure that that MPC would print images for which the copyright is not owned by the uploader, as before the images are passed for publication one always has to tick a box saying that one owns the copyright. I guess if one were less than honest the box could be ticked, but the Greenwood is well known and it would probably be spotted and printing refused, even for a private printing with no intention of resale.

Pen wrote: ↑14 Dec 2020, 06:49 I'm not sure that that MPC would print images for which the copyright is not owned by the uploader, as before the images are passed for publication one always has to tick a box saying that one owns the copyright. I guess if one were less than honest the box could be ticked, but the Greenwood is well known and it would probably be spotted and printing refused, even for a private printing with no intention of resale.