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by KoyDeli
21 Dec 2020, 20:00
Forum: The Historical Decks
Topic: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI
Replies: 25
Views: 7829

Re: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI

And here is a juggler, in a fool's dress, with a monkey at his feet [zoom in to the juggler at the top left]

https://www.britishmuseum.org/collectio ... 5-0825-476
by KoyDeli
21 Dec 2020, 19:05
Forum: The Historical Decks
Topic: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI
Replies: 25
Views: 7829

Re: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI

Wandering jugglers are recorded as travelling with dogs, monkeys, dancing bears and such like from the 15th century at least, in places such as Italy, France and England. Monkeys too can be found portrayed earlier in medieval art, they are quite frequent as marginalia in medieval manuscripts. Juggl...
by KoyDeli
21 Dec 2020, 17:49
Forum: The Historical Decks
Topic: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI
Replies: 25
Views: 7829

Re: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI

XI Force is quite impressive. The details of the facial expression exudes determination, and the billowing of her robes adds to the sense of dynamism and movement, which compliments the woman's physical stance as she struggles to subdue the lion. There's nothing passive about this depiction of Fort...
by KoyDeli
21 Dec 2020, 17:43
Forum: The Historical Decks
Topic: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI
Replies: 25
Views: 7829

Re: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI

The dupe on the left of the Juggler looks to me quite like the lover of Trump VI, and the lady in Trump VI quite like the Lady of Trump XI :
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by KoyDeli
21 Dec 2020, 17:04
Forum: The Historical Decks
Topic: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI
Replies: 25
Views: 7829

Re: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI

As you know, The Fool in most traditional TdM is placed last after Le Monde..., ?? I'm not sure about this - it is certainly part of the 19th century French Esoteric tradition to place the Fool in the penultimate or last place. Prior to that the Fool's position is much more vague. Probably a little...
by KoyDeli
21 Dec 2020, 11:40
Forum: The Historical Decks
Topic: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI
Replies: 25
Views: 7829

Re: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI

speaking of dates......I've just emailed Patrick Coq in an effort to determine exactly when the Tarot de Paris was included in the collection of the Bibliothèque nationale de France, although I have no idea if he will be forthcoming. The "tarot parisien anonyme", along with the Noblet, Vi...
by KoyDeli
18 Dec 2020, 10:41
Forum: The Historical Decks
Topic: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI
Replies: 25
Views: 7829

Re: Tarot de Paris - Editions SIVILIXI

Always little details to notice on this deck - I love the detail of the crupper* on the Knight of Swords and the little Lion's [?] head to which it is attached to the saddle: [Jeu_de_tarot_parisien_anonyme_[...]_btv1b105109624.jpg *Crupper: a leather strap fastened to the saddle and looping under th...
by KoyDeli
17 Nov 2020, 04:45
Forum: Misc. Tarot Topics & Discussion
Topic: 17th C. Card Printing in France
Replies: 14
Views: 3990

Re: 17th C. Card Printing in France

Although it extends somewhat beyond the period subject to this thread, for those who are interested in the Noblet family of cardmakers of Paris, here are some other links that I have been able to find in the online French National Archives and Geneanet in the 18th century: Charles Noblet, Maitre Car...
by KoyDeli
17 Nov 2020, 04:29
Forum: Misc. Tarot Topics & Discussion
Topic: 17th C. Card Printing in France
Replies: 14
Views: 3990

Jean Noblet c1647 - c1681

Among its treasures is an Extrait des Registres de Parlement dated 1681 Fait en parliement le vingt dixieme jour du mois de Fevrier mil six cent quatre-vingt-un. The five-page document concerns a dispute between Jean Noblet, Maitre Cartier & the cardmakers of Paris, versus Merchants of Paris, c...
by KoyDeli
17 Nov 2020, 04:19
Forum: Misc. Tarot Topics & Discussion
Topic: 17th C. Card Printing in France
Replies: 14
Views: 3990

Re: 17th C. Card Printing in France

In May of this year while searching the online archives of the Bibliotheque Nationale de France [Gallica] I discovered this little gem: Collection formée par Nicolas DELAMARE sur l'administration et la police de Paris et de la France. LXXXIV Jeux et loteries. Which turns out to include a collection...
by KoyDeli
17 Nov 2020, 04:03
Forum: Misc. Tarot Topics & Discussion
Topic: 17th C. Card Printing in France
Replies: 14
Views: 3990

Re: 17th C. Card Printing in France

In May of this year while searching the online archives of the Bibliotheque Nationale de France [Gallica] I discovered this little gem: Collection formée par Nicolas DELAMARE sur l'administration et la police de Paris et de la France. LXXXIV Jeux et loteries. Description : Contient : Jeux en général...
by KoyDeli
26 Aug 2020, 12:08
Forum: Astrology
Topic: Planets, decans and minor arcana
Replies: 13
Views: 20404

Re: Planets, decans and minor arcana

The order is one of natural observation of the apparent motion of the seven traditional 'planets' and was made by astronomers of ancient times. The association with the days of the week and the relation of such to the planetary hours is testified from pagan Roman times at least. In medieval times we...
by KoyDeli
18 Aug 2020, 11:15
Forum: Tarot de Marseille
Topic: Tarot History forum
Replies: 8
Views: 2168

Re: Tarot History forum

If you continue to have problems contact Ross Caldwell, he is on FB, and is an administrator of the Tarot History Forum. I had problems re-registering in the past and he sorted it out for me. I post there as SteveM. Which I mention just in case you see some of my posts here and there and think I am ...
by KoyDeli
16 Aug 2020, 22:39
Forum: Sola Busca Study Group
Topic: Sola Busca TRAHOR FATIS
Replies: 7
Views: 4636

Re: Sola Busca TRAHOR FATIS

Gaius Claudius Nero (c. 247 BC – c. 189 BC) may have some relevance. He is the one who kept the head of the Carthaginian general Hasdrubal, Hannibal's brother, and had it thrown into the camp of Hannibal, who is said to have then declared "There lies the fate Carthage!" A sign of utter de...
by KoyDeli
13 Aug 2020, 10:31
Forum: Week 33 - My Deck of the Week
Topic: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!
Replies: 16
Views: 5595

Re: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!

When I had discussions with him around August 2016, I think the book was in process to be published? [If memory serves me right, it was forthcoming in winter of 2016, but came out in early 2017?] - He had put up excerpts of a couple of chapters online. I have not read the book, only the pre-publicat...
by KoyDeli
13 Aug 2020, 09:51
Forum: Week 33 - My Deck of the Week
Topic: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!
Replies: 16
Views: 5595

Re: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!

Ah yes, a pilleus - I misremembered - I was thinking 'cap of liberty' and my mind went to Phygian cap rather than Pileus - I don't think it a Pilleus either. The uncoloured version it is clearer, but if the colourist wanted to intentionally change it to make it look like a pilleus, he could have mad...
by KoyDeli
13 Aug 2020, 08:59
Forum: Week 33 - My Deck of the Week
Topic: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!
Replies: 16
Views: 5595

Re: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!

The way the man is dressed is a clear indication of the festival of Saturnalia..., I presume you get this idea from Peter Adam's Game of Saturn. It's a good idea I think to check Adam's description of the cards against the card itself. In several cases he appears to describe something as being in t...
by KoyDeli
12 Aug 2020, 22:29
Forum: Sola Busca Study Group
Topic: Sola Busca TRAHOR FATIS
Replies: 7
Views: 4636

Re: Sola Busca TRAHOR FATIS

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Medallion made in honour of Angelo Catone, by Fiorentino, Adriano, Florence, between 1482-1495.
by KoyDeli
12 Aug 2020, 22:28
Forum: Sola Busca Study Group
Topic: Sola Busca TRAHOR FATIS
Replies: 7
Views: 4636

Re: Sola Busca TRAHOR FATIS

117573953_3113548108762835_39243690447326020_n.jpg _____________________________________ From a woodcut of 1493, showing the three types of comets, "les trois estoilles sent estoille barbue, estoille chevelue, et estoille couee." Estoille barbue means 'bearded star', it was also called 'p...
by KoyDeli
12 Aug 2020, 22:25
Forum: Sola Busca Study Group
Topic: Sola Busca TRAHOR FATIS
Replies: 7
Views: 4636

Re: Sola Busca TRAHOR FATIS

117707925_3113488288768817_6846027103995965125_n.jpg __________________________________________________ Hannibal, upon seeing his brother's severed head, cried: "There lies the fate of Carthage" -- his prophetic words were fulfilled many years later, when Carthage was utterly destroyed, l...
by KoyDeli
12 Aug 2020, 21:50
Forum: Week 33 - My Deck of the Week
Topic: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!
Replies: 16
Views: 5595

Re: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!

Venturio means 'lucky', 'good luck' and is a form of Venturo 'forthcoming, next, the time to come'. It numeration too might link it with other patterns in which 'X' is the number of the Wheel of Fortune. Kairos is not just 'this moment' but 'the right moment', the opportune moment, the pregnant mome...
by KoyDeli
12 Aug 2020, 21:39
Forum: Week 33 - My Deck of the Week
Topic: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!
Replies: 16
Views: 5595

Re: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!

The hat of Venturio maybe seen as akin to the bald head and long forward forelock of Kairos/Occassio; and we have the winged boots too:
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by KoyDeli
12 Aug 2020, 21:31
Forum: Week 33 - My Deck of the Week
Topic: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!
Replies: 16
Views: 5595

Re: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!

A later type of this figure was Occassio, often confused with Fortuna. 22814106_1422094714574858_2200228434613935822_n.jpg -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote "Who are you? - I am the moment of seized opportunity that governs all. -...
by KoyDeli
12 Aug 2020, 21:19
Forum: Week 33 - My Deck of the Week
Topic: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!
Replies: 16
Views: 5595

Re: JM DoW: Sola Busca again!

23755289_1449373238513672_7460890200653385733_n.jpg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- While 'beard-pulling' was, I as I remember pointing out to Peter Adams several years ago on another forum, sometimes a symbol of mastu...
by KoyDeli
22 Jul 2020, 10:46
Forum: Misc. Tarot Topics & Discussion
Topic: 17th C. Card Printing in France
Replies: 14
Views: 3990

Re: 17th C. Card Printing in France

Here is a map from 1550 of the area, thought to be a copy of one from the 1520s/30s. Note the area in the top highlighted portion inked in blue. The highlighted area below penned in black is what was to become the rue St. Marguerite where Noblet is recorded as living in 1659:
NobletMap2.jpg

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